As he says, the rules were set a long time ago. Building to the murder spree OP touches on, the movie is most bold in its conclusion. I always found the death of the police chief to be a tiny, but excellent poke at superhero, or vigilante justice films. There's just the revelation that a sizable chunk of her character's face is missing, and that's that. And they are great movies, nothing against them, they are showing the issue from a different angle. In his mind, molesting kids is the same as butting in line, because it's all wrong. Movies are made to entertain us, to give us an escape for a couple of hours and get lost in another world. With Joe Pesci, Vincent Gardenia, Madolyn Smith Osborne, Rubén Blades. Absolutely. Very interesting. The film opens, as all horror films seem obliged to do, with a woman alone in their house trying their best to ignore spooky goings-on around the place. In between the panels. Toggle navigation. Just describing it is dark. The sex scene with Page I didn't come across as to be edgy, but to give you insight into what her character really was. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. But it's okay in Tony Stark's hands. I'd choose it over Kick Ass any day, I enjoyed the way I had no idea what was coming - Ellen Page's (who I'm a huge fan of) character 'Boltie's death was completely out of the blue. What do you guys think? After Relic released on July 3, 2020, it garnered the attention of both horror fans and critics who have given it high praise for its unique storytelling. Huge surprise. The Super (2017 film) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Super is a 2017 American horror thriller film directed by Stephan Rick and starring Val Kilmer. It just took a plotline that you thought was going to have a bigger effect on the movie as a whole and shot it down literally. He is pathetic in a charming way from the beginning, claiming his two perfect moments were when he married Liv Tyler and when he pointed a police officer in the direction of an escaping criminal. The Kick-Ass movie decided to actually treat the characters like they liked them, and Dave gets the girl. Just describing it is dark. For instance, Ellen Page's character gets shot- There's no slow, dramatic goodbye as she bleeds out and closes her eyes. The title of the movie is clearly referring to Val Kilmer’s role as the super of an apartment building. What if you want the movie stripped back to its bare bones, the entire plot summed up in just a couple of lines? The monologue he gives "Jock" at the end I almost had tears going. Super gives us a fully delusional and morally unbending man and I respect it for that. She has no such plot armor -- she's just another monster having fun, and the movie dispatches her like it does every other badguy in the film. The movie is about Phil Lodge and his two daughters that move into an apartment building in New York. Everyone says you would have to be crazy to be a superhero but this is one of the only movies where you see what that looks like. The cinematography, script, themes, and everything else were passable; nothing more. If you ask me, Super is the most important super hero movie of the last ten years. Though I can agree with people who say it can't really decide what it wants to be; I laughed a lot, but its also pretty dark. And as he reminisces about how things turned out, he sits on his bed and looks at the hundreds of drawings of perfect moments that he lived throughout the film. I had expected, if anything went right, it was what he fought for. Sort of. Home; In Theaters ; Coming Soon ; 2020 Movies; 2021 Movies; Upcoming . Phil Lodge (Flueger), the. Ellen Page plays his spunky, teenaged sidekick he meets in a comic book store. Directed by James Gunn. "YOU DON'T BUTT IN LINE! The idea of the "everyman" super hero is also nothing new. It was just...unexpected. What Lies Below: Ending explained and other theories from Reddit. Tell me the Super Bowl isn’t a movie and get back to me, or am I the only one that thinks the angles and scripts just seem too perfect and none of the players seem to sweat and shit (self.explain-this10) submitted 1 minute ago by explain-this10 If you're new, Subscribe! Super is a gritty yet darkly light hearted look at vigilante justice. For those familiar with The Princess Diaries, (random I know) Patrick John Fleuger plays Jeremiah, the magician with the bright red hair. As per the 12 Monkeys Ending Explained Reddit thread, the ending of the Bruce Willis/Brad Pitt film is actually a happy one. It was caught between being a comedy (for obvious reasons) and a drama (Rainn's character arc, Ellen Page's death) without doing either very well. YOU DON'T SELL DRUGS! Rainn Wilson is excellent in it. Once the final act comes around, you know something has gone very wrong. The OP outlined it fairly well for what it was, but a comedy it was not, although it had its moments of dark comedy. The movie is a lot like Kick-Ass, which might throw a lot of people off, but it was a different message overall and, as OP states, the final minuted of the movie always bring a tear to my eye and make me feel, well, good. Batman may bend morality, but in the end he is always right. 0. The casualties are no longer on the side of evil, even though it could be argued that Page's blood lust made her as evil as anyone else. It`s more or less making a commentary on (what was at the time) the superhero movie craze. With Rainn Wilson, Elliot Page, Liv Tyler, Kevin Bacon. 'The Super': Film Review. They did the "what if ordinary people tried to be super heroes" much better, I thought, as well answering "and what kind of people would they be". Ellen Page's character made it all the more interesting, as she causes the already misguided & confused main character to consider what he's doing. Ellen Page's character is interesting because...well, she actually is evil. Phil Lodge (Patrick John Fleuger) is a retired cop who takes up a job in a large apartment building as one of three supers. But the film thrusts him into the role of protagonist, and we are left to decide for ourselves if his actions are "pure" or not. Stopped at the luxurious New York apartment buildings. It's a look at a somewhat delusional man. The main character is very well fleshed out. Follow The Batman Rule - Don't create clues using an actor/actresses' characters from other movies. I think a lot of people passed by it because it looked like Dwight from the office trying to be a quirky super hero, but it's a much more serious film than that. At the crescendo of it all he threw it all back in your face and made you feel sick because that violence was then imposed on a character we liked. But what if you don't want the details? He decides his super hero weapon will be a huge wrench and the camera does not shy away when he uses it. This discussion is especially interesting in light of the fact that the writer and director, James Gunn, is writing and directing the next big Marvel franchise film Guardians of the Galaxy. Directed by Rod Daniel. Why, because he's the protagonist, he's right. Super excelled in this regard, while Kick-Ass the comic was hit or miss (Mark Millar is fucking weird). Also, it had some serious tonal issues. Iron Man is the same. Sure there's a lot of humor but beneath is something really deep. Throughout the movie, ignorance is seen as a positive, largely attacking the thought-provoking aspects of life and theater, but Birdman is always apart from the ignorance. I disliked it when I saw it a while back, but I don't feel that I fully understood it, so I plan to give it a second shot. The movie was always centered in the logic of our reality, it just took a while for those consequences to catch up with our character. Super is an amazing movie, and Rainn Wilson does a great job of playing an average Joe without the character of Swight Schrute bleeding over. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Also worth noting, Ellen Page dies. made me chuckle enough to check it out, but I got much more than I'd anticipated. I can't wait to compare and contrast the themes and story-telling of his low-budget Superhero deconstruction and his big-budget mainstream Superhero blockbuster. What Lies Below is currently the … If his technology got in the hands of his enemies, well that's the end of the world. I think my biggest surprise was how there was no follow up. Super doesn't give us that. This comes full circle at the end when he sees what impact his actions can make on the world, and that doing good things even without knowing their immediate consequence or reward is the right thing to do. She's an important contrast, as a matter of fact. What enjoyed the most is that the protagonist is just doing what he feels is right, even if he doesn't completely understand why he feels this way. Also, Ellen Page was hysterical in this. A bereaved former cop takes a job as a superintendant in a huge New York apartment building. Boondock Saints, Taken, Dexter, Kick Ass, the movies that glamorize vigilante justice are endless. The super hero movies today, obviously for the PG-13 rating, have no blood and minimal violence whereas Super ends with Rainn Wilson repeatedly stabbing Kevin Bacon in the chest with a small knife as Bacon cries helpless and Liv Tyler watches. I liked that change, the original ending was just.... yeesh. Spoilers for Relic ahead In Natalie Erika James’s directorial debut, the 2020 supernatural horror drama Relic follows three generations of women dealing with an apparent curse that manifests as a mysterious black spot on their bodies. Did anyone else find the movie's tone wildly inconsistent? In a way, Rainn Wilson's role is much more relatable than Kick-Ass. This is not a favorable or passable look at vigilante justice, which oddly enough is probably the most acceptable law to break in film. Rainn Wilson is there on a mission, to save somebody, and it's this pure-hearted motivation that shields him even as he goes down some darker paths. The Super centers on the mysterious disappearance of several tenants at a luxury New York City apartment building. It is more of a dark somewhat cerebral look at vigilante justice and, in my opinion, it says all of the things that mainstream super hero movies gloss over. However, she isn’t alone – her disabled brother is with her. I am so glad someone else thinks this! You might be indifferent to it. I just love the slow burn of it being gradually revealed that Ellen Page's character is a goddamn lunatic. Super hero movies are nothing new. If Wilson's character is the embodiment of justice gone perverted, Page's character is like the fanboy who lusts for the power (through violence), & is hedonistic about it. I didn't really like Kick Ass, but I loved Super. It was just a series of amusing and/or shocking scenes that didn't fit together under any thematic umbrella. With Patrick John Flueger, Val Kilmer, Louisa Krause, Mattea Conforti. Yeah, I really liked it, subverted a lot of the usual tropes of superhero movies and I think did it well. Overall I think the movie was better, but played it much safer than they could have (while still being pretty unconventionally violent and vulgar). The Tenet Ending Explained. In Super, the chief walks into Rainn Wilson's apartment and gets shot in the face, in a simple master shot. Eli is a movie about a ten-year-old boy named – as you might guess – Eli, who is allergic to everything. This is such a ballsy move, to kill off a character the audience likes with little more than a random gunshot. I keep up on Marvel but I had not made that connection. The Super is a mystery thriller that features Val Kilmer in a great supporting role that I just saw at a film festival. He is sad to watch, but he is happier than most of us with those two moments. Karma comes into play when a wealthy wisecracking landlord is ordered by a court to live in the filthy building that he runs. While I felt these little moments were smart and shocking deconstructions of superhero (and by extension, general movie) cliches, i don't feel like the movie had a larger point about vigilantes to make.. Like, say, Watchmen. Birdman is doing the unreal, and the movie goes into an ignorant realm. Super manages to invert the established superhero plot on every level. I would hardly call beating someone half to death for cutting in line the right thing to do. Batman and Superman have been done and redone so many times that most people could name the six Bonds before they could name all the Batman's or Supermen. But the ending was brilliant. It struck me as try-hard, attempting to be funnier than it actually was. Not really a blend of dark comedy and action, but like a bipolar episode? More or less innocent people get hurt, such as the guy cutting in line and his girl or the guy Ellen Page suggests they take down because he might have keyed her friends car. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, News & Discussion about Major Motion Pictures, Press J to jump to the feed. Yep, this is the best of the "normal people being superheroes" movies. The movie is a lot like Kick-Ass, which might throw a lot of people off, but it was a different message overall and, as OP states, the final minuted of the movie always bring a tear to my eye and make me feel, well, good. They don't change. ", That part when he was yelling at Jock I was like "Holy shit, Rainn Wilson is actually a great dramatic actor.". Guardians is already on my must watch list for simply employing a Doctor Who actor, because holy hell they are everywhere now. Adding edgy elements to the film (sex, gore) did not make it shocking or snarkier. However, when I watched Super for the first time (last year with several rewatches since) I knew I had seen something I hadn't seen before. WARNING! ‘Midsommar’ explained: The filmmakers unpack the sex, rituals and shocking ending Florence Pugh’s Dani, center, is dealing with grief after a family tragedy, in “Midsommar.” (A24 ) The scene where she rapes him is really twisted, & underscores that the filmmakers are not making a light parody of superhero / vigilante movies. And she doesn't die in a badass duel with the drug lord's right hand man, she randomly gets shot during the initial storm. It's on Netflix Instant and even though it was advertised as a quirky comedy I assure you it is anything but. After the next hour or so you begin to doubt this. 12:17 PM PDT 10/17/2018 by Frank Scheck FACEBOOK; TWITTER; EMAIL ME; YOUTUBE; Familiar stuff, but Kilmer makes it work. YOU DON'T PROFIT OFF THE MISERY OF OTHERS! And what he does is not pretty. But one thing seems almost certain: You will have strong feelings about its ending. With little connection to the characters and little to laugh at, the film pretty much fell on its face. In Stephan Rick’s THE SUPER, we find out just how many secrets those rooms can hold. First of all, it's important the way this movie conveys violence. For more Rainn Wilson being unlike Dwight Schrute with an additional almost unrecognizable Joseph Gordon-Levitt, check out the movie Hesher. Sure if I want to see an action flick on the big screen I would choose a Dark Knight movie for its pure sensual explosiveness, but I got a much deeper enjoyment out of Super. If you haven't seen Super (2010) starring Rainn Wilson, Ellen Page, and Kevin Bacon I highly recommend it. I think that was an imporant choice this movie made. Us’s Jason/Pluto theory, explained and debunked; Us’s big plot twist, explained; Jordan Peele’s Us — and its ending — explained. Phil Lodge (Patrick John Fleuger) is a retired cop who takes up a job in a large apartment building as one of three supers. This motif comes up again and again as he commits insanely violent acts for what he hopes will make a better society. He is the depiction of right, the reason he exists is to be right. Wilson is a hero by his own standards, certainly not societies, and perhaps not even the audiences. His tenants begin to vanish, and he'll have to solve a series of cryptic riddles to find them. Kevin Bacon always great. Not only does she have a penchant for violence and borderline murder, but she also forces herself on Rainn Wilson which asks multiple questions about morality in and of itself. You like him, you want him to succeed and you know Kevin Bacon is the bad guy, but you certainly can't agree with everything he does. A man becomes the superintendent of a large New York City apartment building where people mysteriously go missing. The tagline of "Shut up, Crime!" That Wilsons rampage had a positive, long lasting impact on his life and the life of the woman he loves forces an ultimatum on the audience: is Wilson a monster or a hero? I LOVE this movie. With this in mind we understand why he goes to such lengths to get his wife back, why he does what he does. The main character is what sells this movie for me. He's kind of like Walter White from Breaking Bad. Submissions with more up-votes appear towards the top of their subreddit and, if they receive enough up-votes, ultimately on the site's front page. Really, what makes a Nolan movie memorable to me, outside of the incredible visuals, is the over-analysis of his jigsaw plots. The main character, who we all love to feel bad for, gives a great monologue about how if he hadn't done what he had she may never have become a drug counselor and gotten her degree, and never have had the several kids with another man who refer to him as Uncle Frank. I didn't approach it as a comedy, more as a depiction of the typical hero with a bit further step into the consequences of their actions. He mercilessly beats people with the wrench, not only drug dealers and child molesters but one man cutting in line got his skull cracked open and he doesn't hesitate to use the wrench on women. Isabel insists that they must be bringing some of … Also worth discussing is how the movie ends. So, there is collateral damage for this justice. Triangle: The Sci-Fi Horror Movie's Ending & Time Loop Explained. I had pretty mixed feelings about this movie, but I really enjoyed that scene (and others like it) for the reasons you describe. After his wife falls under the influence of a drug dealer, an everyday guy transforms himself into Crimson Bolt, a superhero with the best intentions, but lacking in heroic skills. James Gunn wanted the audience to get caught up in the super hero aspect, cheer Rainn's character on even though he was performing horrible acts of violence for minor grievances. Triangle is a sci-fi horror film that explores sin and punishment through a unique time loop-style plot, but what does it mean and how does it end? The film slowly builds up the duality of Wilsons character, alternating scenes where we're rooting for/against him. The angle that the judicial system just doesn't get shit done sometimes, but we should all recognize that these perfect characters who we allow to play judge and jury are just as fantastical as any other ridiculously disproportionate character. As OP stated, Wilsons actions can be seen as vindictive and cruel. I just finished watching this movie like five minutes ago, and I was trying to place what was right with that scene. Man! Jordan Peele’s new movie, Us, is out in theaters . Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. He and Ellen Page are certainly delusional. Movies like The Crow, Darkman, Blankman, and The Punisher have always been making the average bad ass. Greg eats some more yellow pills, while chaos reigns in the utopia. It had forgettable and unlikeable characters (poor development) and a dull plot. I'm a real sucker for this kind of stuff though, much in the same vein as High Noon (1952). You want to like him because he's the protagonist, and if you look at it from a certain angle you get his motivations, but objectively he is just bad news. Even A Time To Kill pits us the ultimate question of vigilante justice and in the end Sam Jackson gets off the hook for killing two men in a courtroom lobby in front of God and everybody. Also worth noting, Ellen Page dies. The Super in US theaters October 19, 2018 starring Val Kilmer, Patrick John Flueger. Rainn Wilson has a sense of affection for her in hindsight, but she's still a murderous rapist and she actually victimizes him. You can feel his brutal passion for the morally right and in this moment we see how powerful his will to do good is, no matter how disproportionate the consequences. THE RULES WERE SET ALONG TIME AGO! Over. It struck a chord with me when I first watched it, as well, for many of the reasons you've mentioned. An example is The Amazing Spiderman. A religious man who believes he has been touched by God and chosen to fight evil, sparked by his wife leaving him for her former drug dealer after having been clean for some time. It's so matter-of-fact, I love it. The Super movie plot starts with Phil Lodge, who is a widower, and a former NYPD officer, seeking a job alongside his two daughters; Violet the elder one and Rose the younger one. Super does not give us that same trust in the main character. Is that where we are, Frank? It's not a look at superheroes, super powers, or good vs bad (well, that's debatable...). In films of those genres, the hard-nosed police chief starts off regularly against the superhero/vigilante and in the end, changes his view of him, and helps save the day. It was and is such a great ending to the film, almost as if we forgive him of his crimes because his intentions were always pure and it's proven to us by his graceful acceptance of his loneliness, because for the length of the movie he had it all. The ending really drives that home. That insane sense of matter-of-factness pervades entire the film and is, in my opinion, its best asset. The gore was over the top a bit, but I think it was more to illustrate the actual consequences of their actions. Hard truths that were hard to watch. As long as comic books have been popular, so have super heroes and film been friends. I was bored, and to call something designed for entertainment "boring" is perhaps the worst label possible. This is not Batman where Bruce Wayne uses his endless resources to ensure no one dies. Great scene. It's a very entertaining rebuttal to the movie industry's biggest cash-cow in decades. But what really sold me on this film was the denouement. What is the Bliss movie ending, explained? By Maisy Flowers Published Aug 29, 2020. Because of that, I don't really have a lot to contribute to this discussion, but I think this article written by Film Crit Hulk will interest a lot of you. If you haven't seen it, continue at own risk as there will probably be ample spoilers in this post. He draws these moments out in child-like drawings, which to me are a great way to show is child-like view on the world and the black and white of morality but more on that later, and puts them on his wall. Ellen Page's character is goddamn awesome. This is something comic book movies completely shy away from, for obvious reasons. That the film concludes on this ultimatum... ballsy indeed. YOU DON'T MOLEST LITTLE CHILDREN! The super hero movies today, obviously for the PG-13 rating, have no blood and minimal violence whereas Super ends with Rainn Wilson repeatedly stabbing Kevin Bacon in the chest with a small knife as Bacon cries helpless and Liv Tyler watches. Directed by Stephan Rick. After going on an all out (and honestly, quite fucking awesome) murder spree on the drug lord's property she is being held, he saves her by stabbing the drug lord to death. You might love the new Carey Mulligan movie Promising Young Woman.You might hate it. Batman, Iron Man, and countless other superheroes with no super powers are seen as God like figures. Comment. Super is an amazing movie, and Rainn Wilson does a great job of playing an average Joe without the character of Swight Schrute bleeding over. Phil somehow got the job as a superintendent plus got a room for living within the building basement. Super has what the Kick-Ass comic has: total disregard for your typical warm Hollywood feel-good outcomes. Fri Apr 09, 2021 at 1:00am ET By Raven Brunner. I really disliked Super. The Legion of Super-Heroes are both from space and the future, an intergalactic coalition of teens dedicated to bringing back the values of the 20th century’s Age of Heroes. 58 Times People Explained Movies So Badly It Was Good (New Pics) Ilona Baliūnaitė BoredPanda staff. The Billionaire Playboy Amendment - Don't create clues using a real-life actor's description. Among the violent repercussions of going super, his underaged sidekick also has her share of delusional world view. Share Share Tweet Email. Its like anyone who worked with Moffat is getting a better career. THEY DON'T CHANGE! If Mystery Men had a genuinely funny laugh at superheroes, Super takes it a step further & questions the genre to its core, as well as vigilante justice as a theme. Am I the only one? Awesome movie, DO NOT WATCH THIS CLIP, WATCH THE MOVIE. Reddit (/ ˈ r ɛ d ɪ t /, stylized ... science, movies, video games, music, books, sports, fitness, cooking, pets, and image-sharing. Agree, such a great movie. → http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-LooperNot all filmmakers like their movies to have simple endings. It also says a lot about what this Super stint ended up causing Rainn Wilson's character. Just, dead, done. The last 12 min is one of the most intense/emotional endings. What we see isn't a man waging war against evil, it's a man who gets so tied up in black and white justice that sometimes we don't know whether to cheer for him or hope he gets arrested. *Recent super hero movies, with all their hype and purported seriousness taken away really fall short of this movie. 5. The Super is a horror movie out on Netflix now and from the first 15 minutes, you’d think you were in for something good. The Redditor in question, namely TimWins_, spoke about the final moments of the feature as he dissected the same almost frame-by-frame.
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